This is The Mountain Goats’ johndarnielle on nprfreshair talking about his novel Wolf in White Van, self destruction, The Incredible Hulk, and, of course, heavy metal

johndarnielle on his childhood hero:

My dude was the Incredible Hulk — that was my hero. I get emotional when I think about it. … He valued and treasured his friends and … anyone who mistreated them, he wanted to destroy, utterly.

What an amazing interview.